Curse

hurdlebeast · Jan 11, 2008, 07:40 PM // 19:40

First are 55 ele's possible? I mean i know theoretically they are (pretty much any char w/55 health and monk secondary could be called a 55'er) but would having elementalist as a primary ruin the build? Has anyone done the 55 build (i'm sure ppl have) and if so, could they please post a usable, working build on here?

Here are the skills i was thinking about using for my 55 ele build

[skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Healing Breeze[/skill][skill]Mending[/skill][skill]Essence bond[/skill][skill]Aura of Restoration[/skill][skill]Retribution[/skill]+2 Optional damage dealers (flame burst, mebee?)

dunno how skills would be distributed, healing prayers and energy storage would be highest, then smiting, then optional element.

any help is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.

guitarfreak192002 · Jan 11, 2008, 07:47 PM // 19:47

You could add in Sliver Armor for extra damage and protection. You attributes would be stretched pretty thin having to deal with 4 skill classes. Interesting though

hurdlebeast · Jan 11, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

i was thinking about that too, sliver armor+aftershock? or SoJ and aftershock, double damage on that one.

Shockwave...damn. i think i found my elite.

guitarfreak192002 · Jan 11, 2008, 08:04 PM // 20:04

I would definately take out retribution, it does such low damage that it would take forever to kill anything and make killing anything that can heal impossible.

The Way Out · Jan 11, 2008, 08:41 PM // 20:41

lol... add obi as an elite and go with an SS/SV. This build works.

hurdlebeast · Jan 11, 2008, 09:37 PM // 21:37

uhhh...what?

sorry only been playing my ele for <a month, dunno all the abbreviations yet

blurmedia · Jan 11, 2008, 10:11 PM // 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurdlebeast

uhhh...what?

sorry only been playing my ele for <a month, dunno all the abbreviations yet

He means [skill]Obsidian Flesh[/skill]

SS/SV is a second character using[skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill] or [skill]Spoil Victor[/skill] to kill enemies while you are tanking them.

hurdlebeast · Jan 11, 2008, 11:06 PM // 23:06

k, i thought that's what he meant (obsidian flesh) and i knew SS was spiteful spirit, wasn't sure if he was suggesting that i switch to necro second and use a ss build somehow.

I had no idea what spoil victor was. thanks.

actually this works out nicely, i can use obsidian flesh and get Olias SS, or even use the sabway build...this could end up nicely after all

Coloneh · Jan 12, 2008, 04:03 AM // 04:03

obs flesh or sandstorm
sliver armor
aftershock
Prot spirit
HB
Mending
Balth Aura
Essence bond

hurdlebeast · Jan 12, 2008, 08:23 AM // 08:23

HB? lol jk, jk. i'm actually using healing breeze on my ele as he is right now, helps the monks a bit and keeps me alive longer. best bang for the buck w/o dumping huge points into healing

Bowstring Badass · Jan 12, 2008, 08:30 AM // 08:30

Why retribution on a 55? It would do like 3 dmg if that and the e/d is better neway.

Tyla · Jan 12, 2008, 12:27 PM // 12:27

lose retrib, bring in some PBAoE!
imo

Coloneh · Jan 12, 2008, 02:56 PM // 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurdlebeast

HB? lol jk, jk. i'm actually using healing breeze on my ele as he is right now, helps the monks a bit and keeps me alive longer. best bang for the buck w/o dumping huge points into healing

thats not good. HB is a terrible waste of a skill slot unless you are running low health with prot spirit.

hurdlebeast · Jan 12, 2008, 09:35 PM // 21:35

i used it in the vizunah square mission, had 2 superior runes on and the monks suxed. agreed on the wasted slot, would have much rather took along another damage dealer.

Edit: ran into a hitch; can't put monk runes on ele armor.

rick1027 · Jan 12, 2008, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurdlebeast

i used it in the vizunah square mission, had 2 superior runes on and the monks suxed. agreed on the wasted slot, would have much rather took along another damage dealer.

Edit: ran into a hitch; can't put monk runes on ele armor.

a 55 necro doesnt use monk runes why does the ele need too

Pyro maniac · Jan 13, 2008, 02:48 PM // 14:48

either sliver armor (maybe + glyph of renewal) or just some crap PBAoE fire magic skills

Morzan Murtangh · Jan 13, 2008, 04:15 PM // 16:15

I just made 55hp ele, but i don't know where to farm.

System_Crush · Jan 13, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Remember that a 55 doesn't need a specific elite to survive, which is probs why it's the most wide spread farming build.
Usin an ele Elite you can do pretty nice things, like using [skill=text]Mind Blast[/skill] to chain [skill=text]Lava Font[/skill], any other energy gain elite would probably work as well, combine that with enough radiant insignias and runes of attunement and you can take out points of energy management to get enough fire to make [skill=text]Mark of Rodgort[/skill] work with it, so even stuff that isn't adjacent to you can be subjected to constant damage.

Shyft the Pyro · Jan 13, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39

Any caster profession can be set up to 55. In fact, in the old days it was cheaper to make a non-monk 55, because monk superior runes cost more than those of all other professions - with the exception of the coveted Superior Absorption, which used to fetch 100k. Don't laugh, young ones

I've farmed Hydras outside Augury Rock with my 55 ele back before Factions was released. All you need is the classic build:

[skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Healing Breeze[/skill][skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Zealot's Fire[/skill][skill]Shield of Judgment[/skill][skill]Essence Bond[/skill][skill]Balthazar's Spirit[/skill][skill]Mending[/skill]

The hydras are immune to knockdown, which means the only time they won't take SoJ damage is when they start casting. Zealot's Fire is there to supplement your damage; just remember not to trigger it too often, or the hydras will think they're standing in a "per second" AoE spell and run off.

Of course, new campaigns have introduced numerous improvements to the farming ele:

First, there's [skill]Spirit Bond[/skill] - an excellent alternative to Healing Breeze if you bring low-AL armor. Granted, the skill has been nerfed so that it only affects a certain number of hits rather than every hit for its duration, but the low cast time and recharge mean you can be protected virtually all the time.

Second, there's [skill]Shield of Absorption[/skill], which - unlike most other things - prevents damage after Protective Spirit reduces it. A Monk primary can keep this up almost all the time (with + enchantment duration items and [skill]Blessed Aura[/skill], I believe), but Shield of Absorption will provide even the secondary monk with a considerable span of near-total invulnerability.

Even without the new campaigns, though, the elementalist has its own version of an "indestructible" build for farming. Consider this, which I made (again, before Factions was released) to farm those same hydras:

[skill]Elemental Attunement[/skill][skill]Fire Attunement[/skill][skill]Aura of Restoration[/skill][skill]Kinetic Armor[/skill][skill]Aftershock[/skill][skill]Flame Burst[/skill][skill]Inferno[/skill][skill]Armor of Earth[/skill]

The increase in AL the skills in this build provided made the hydras' damage survivable even with only Aura of Restoration as the sole source of healing, basically letting you spam Flame Burst as soon as it recharged until the hydras died. Of course, certain changes have been made to render the build a lot less useful - like the fact that +AL spells no longer stack beyond a maximum of +24 or whatever's provided by a single spell - but the elementalist instead got new toys to play with:

[skill]Earth Attunement[/skill][skill]Sliver Armor[/skill][skill]Stoneflesh Aura[/skill][skill]Aura of Restoration[/skill][skill]Obsidian Flesh[/skill][skill]Glyph of Swiftness[/skill][skill]Stone Striker[/skill][skill]Mantra of Earth[/skill](or [skill]Balthazar's Spirit[/skill] and [skill]Essence Bond[/skill])

This, of course, is more suitable for killing specific bosses rather than general farming, since Sliver Armor's effectiveness is reduced the less things are attacking you, but I'm making a point about the incredibly potent protective nature of elementalist spells. With some energy management - Attunements, or skills from a secondary profession - the elementalist can farm very well without needing to rely on builds made for its secondaries.

Now, if the issue is not just survivability but speed of the kills, you'll need someone else's analysis. I haven't farmed with my elementalist in quite some time, and I don't have a monk 55 farmer to compare the efficiency to anyway

hurdlebeast · Jan 13, 2008, 08:48 PM // 20:48

would zealot's fire be activated every single time a spell like shield of judgement is activated? like, say i had 5 enemies attacking me a the same time, and shield of judgement knocks down/damages all 5 of them. would zealot's fire be activated 5 times, or is it only activated when you physically click on the skill button?

also, i run that sliver armor build (or pretty close to it), i have some other damage dealers thrown in (aftershock is one) but the real key to that build is maintaining stoneflesh aura/obsidian flesh. otherwise you will die in an instant.